Conservative subtheories of $${{R}^{1}_{2}}$$ and $${{S}^{1}_{2}}$$ are presented. For $${{S}^{1}_{2}}$$, a slight tightening of Jeřábek’s result (Math Logic Q 52(6):613–624, 2006) that $${T^{0}_{2} \preceq_{\forall \Sigma^{b}_{1}}S^{1}_{2}}$$ is presented: It is shown that $${T^{0}_{2}}$$ can be axiomatised as BASIC together with induction on sharply bounded formulas of one alternation. Within this $${\forall\Sigma^{b}_{1}}$$ -theory, we define a $${\forall\Sigma^{b}_{0}}$$ -theory, $${T^{-1}_{2}}$$, for the $${\forall\Sigma^{b}_{0}}$$ -consequences of $${S^{1}_{2}}$$. We show $${T^{-1}_{2}}$$ is weak by showing it cannot $${\Sigma^{b}_{0}}$$ -define division by 3. We then consider what (...) would be the analogous $${\forall\hat\Sigma^{b}_{1}}$$ -conservative subtheory of $${R^{1}_{2}}$$ based on Pollett (Ann Pure Appl Logic 100:189–245, 1999. It is shown that this theory, $${{T}^{0,\left\{2^{(||\dot{id}||)}\right\}}_{2}}$$, also cannot $${\Sigma^{b}_{0}}$$ -define division by 3. On the other hand, we show that $${{S}^{0}_{2}+open_{\{||id||\}}}$$ -COMP is a $${\forall\hat\Sigma^{b}_{1}}$$ -conservative subtheory of $${R^{1}_{2}}$$. Finally, we give a refinement of Johannsen and Pollett (Logic Colloquium’ 98, 262–279, 2000) and show that $${\hat{C}^{0}_{2}}$$ is $${\forall\hat\Sigma^{b}_{1}}$$ -conservative over a theory based on open cl-comprehension. (shrink)