Abstract
I begin with an initial sketch of French and Phillips’ brand of naive realism, which appeals to "ways of perceiving". Then I
consider two arguments for it: their own argument concerning illusion, and another argument based on what I have called "internal dependence". Next I turn to criticism. I argue that their “quietism” about "ways of perceiving" is unmotivated; there are several possible positive accounts and it is unclear why French and Phillips reject them. I raise three phenomenological problems for the view. Finally, I raise a problem about sensible qualities.